Comments on: If you apply for a job, know who you are talking to http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/ Helping companies increase predicability and business agility. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:24:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pierre-Olivier Carles http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-10216 Pierre-Olivier Carles Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:54:51 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-10216 Actually, I think that recruiting someone who really wants to work with you and in your comapny is more important than everything.<br><br>Motivation is a powerful energizer !<br><br>I somtimes receive worse than what you had : emailing application, with the name of my competitors in the email address form ! I don't even read the mail... No way ! Actually, I think that recruiting someone who really wants to work with you and in your comapny is more important than everything.

Motivation is a powerful energizer !

I somtimes receive worse than what you had : emailing application, with the name of my competitors in the email address form ! I don't even read the mail… No way !

]]> By: Bill Allen http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6628 Bill Allen Tue, 27 May 2008 20:22:56 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6628 I agree with you Robert. I pay attention to how an applicant initially responds, the research they appear to have done, and the selling/interpersonal skills they demonstrate from initial contact through the interview process. It's a good indicator of how they will perform in these areas on the job, and of their level of interest in the position. I agree with you Robert. I pay attention to how an applicant initially responds, the research they appear to have done, and the selling/interpersonal skills they demonstrate from initial contact through the interview process. It’s a good indicator of how they will perform in these areas on the job, and of their level of interest in the position.

]]> By: David Bock http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6611 David Bock Wed, 21 May 2008 18:37:53 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6611 Even if I disagreed with this statement generally (which I don't), it is doubly (if not triply) true for someone interviewing for a 'VP of Marketing' position. A good marketing person knows all the Dale Carnegie tricks to remember someone's name, repeating it when you are introduced, and so on. A Marketing person has to be on his game when managing these personal relationships! Even if I disagreed with this statement generally (which I don’t), it is doubly (if not triply) true for someone interviewing for a ‘VP of Marketing’ position. A good marketing person knows all the Dale Carnegie tricks to remember someone’s name, repeating it when you are introduced, and so on. A Marketing person has to be on his game when managing these personal relationships!

]]> By: Robert Dempsey http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6604 Robert Dempsey Tue, 20 May 2008 15:30:03 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6604 Emily: I am glad to see that we aren't the only ones with these issues. I am willing to give second chances when warranted, however misspelling the company name three times in a single instance warrants no second chances for me. First impressions are huge for sales/marketing. If someone doesn't take the time to do any research (i.e. look at our web page) whatsoever and they are applying for a job, how are they going to approach our potential clients? Emily: I am glad to see that we aren’t the only ones with these issues. I am willing to give second chances when warranted, however misspelling the company name three times in a single instance warrants no second chances for me. First impressions are huge for sales/marketing. If someone doesn’t take the time to do any research (i.e. look at our web page) whatsoever and they are applying for a job, how are they going to approach our potential clients?

]]> By: Emily http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6603 Emily Tue, 20 May 2008 15:25:05 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6603 Nice post. I receive the incoming inquiries from Viget hopefuls. We blog openly about our expectations (see http://www.viget.com/blog/category/recruiting/), but most applicants still miss the mark. I was talking yesterday about the importance of first impressions (and the question of second chances). What do you think - do you give second chances? For example, recently an otherwise promising candidate mis-spelled "Viget" three times in his cover letter ... sigh ... Nice post. I receive the incoming inquiries from Viget hopefuls. We blog openly about our expectations (see http://www.viget.com/blog/category/recruiting/), but most applicants still miss the mark. I was talking yesterday about the importance of first impressions (and the question of second chances). What do you think – do you give second chances? For example, recently an otherwise promising candidate mis-spelled “Viget” three times in his cover letter … sigh …

]]> By: Luis Casillas http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6586 Luis Casillas Sun, 18 May 2008 14:18:17 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6586 Rob, Another great post. What you described sounds a lot like job hunting spam. Hoping that you get a job simply by playing the numbers. I remember making similar mistakes when beginning my career. Getting a job only to later realize that minimal research into a company's background and corporate culture would have showed me that it wasn't a good match. A little research can help many people to avoid obvious mismatches as well as help them find places where they may thrive. Rob,
Another great post. What you described sounds a lot like job hunting spam. Hoping that you get a job simply by playing the numbers. I remember making similar mistakes when beginning my career. Getting a job only to later realize that minimal research into a company’s background and corporate culture would have showed me that it wasn’t a good match. A little research can help many people to avoid obvious mismatches as well as help them find places where they may thrive.

]]> By: Jeremy http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6579 Jeremy Sun, 18 May 2008 00:25:02 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6579 I'd expect them to give me the same research that they'd give a potential client. They're in marketing after all, and an interview/application is marketing themselves to you. If they do a crappy job with that, I'd assume I'd get the same amount of productivity from them on the job. Maybe I'm cynical. :) I’d expect them to give me the same research that they’d give a potential client. They’re in marketing after all, and an interview/application is marketing themselves to you. If they do a crappy job with that, I’d assume I’d get the same amount of productivity from them on the job.

Maybe I’m cynical. :)

]]> By: Robert Dempsey http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6578 Robert Dempsey Sat, 17 May 2008 15:39:41 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6578 Pierre - you make a great point as well. Thanks for the feedback. Pierre – you make a great point as well. Thanks for the feedback.

]]> By: Robert Dempsey http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6577 Robert Dempsey Sat, 17 May 2008 15:38:18 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6577 Cory, I see what you are saying. I don't expect candidates to know anything about me past the fact that I am the one that they are going to be talking to. If there was no indication of who was doing the hiring that's one thing, however on the job site, it is given. Cory, I see what you are saying. I don’t expect candidates to know anything about me past the fact that I am the one that they are going to be talking to. If there was no indication of who was doing the hiring that’s one thing, however on the job site, it is given.

]]> By: Pierre-Olivier Carles http://blog.adsdevshop.com/2008/05/17/if-you-apply-for-a-job-know-who-you-are-talking-to/comment-page-1/#comment-6576 Pierre-Olivier Carles Sat, 17 May 2008 15:34:54 +0000 http://rorblog.techcfl.com/?p=385#comment-6576 Actually, I think that recruiting someone who really wants to work with you and in your comapny is more important than everything. Motivation is a powerful energizer ! I somtimes receive worse than what you had : emailing application, with the name of my competitors in the email address form ! I don't even read the mail... No way ! Actually, I think that recruiting someone who really wants to work with you and in your comapny is more important than everything.

Motivation is a powerful energizer !

I somtimes receive worse than what you had : emailing application, with the name of my competitors in the email address form ! I don’t even read the mail… No way !

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